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		<title>By: Tres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a recovering drug addict. I guess for this subject, my opiate addiction is the most pressing issue. I got addicted to lortabs . For the record , this did not start with a doctor writing me a scrip. I bought them from other people who had prescriptions. After I basically wasted my inheritance on these pills, I decided to go a methadone clinic. I was still an addict at this time, so it just seemed like a better idea to get my fix for 10 $ a day rather than buying lortab 10s @4-5$ each. A lot of days when my tolerance was high, I would buy and take 20 tabs a day. One day I just decided I wanted to be clean and have a life. Suboxone was recommended to me by the doc at the methadone clinic. I am not 100% sure exactly how long I have been taking Suboxone, but I know it has been at least 2 1/2 yrs. I did get clean from everything. I just thought it was perfect, and in a lot of ways it really changed my life. Now comes the problem... I am currently tapering myself off this stuff, and I knew it was gonna be tough! I once went from 100 mg of Methadone to not taking any for 11 days. Obviously it was awful, but I was broke and had no family that wanted anything to do with me. The point is, for the majority of the time that I was taking Suboxone, I was taking 1 8mg pill a day. I took 1 1/2 for a short period. Anyway, I tapered to 4 mg for at least a month. Then I went to 1/4 pills for a week and a half or so. This is when I started getting sick. It&#039;s not quite the same as other opiate with drawal; more of a mental battle and of course stomach problems, no sleep, Absolutely NO appetite. During the last week of my tapering (got down to crumbs) I lost 12 lbs in1 week. 152 lbs to 140; and the real wd hadn&#039;t even started. I know I probably signed a ton of papers saying a lot of things about the positives and negatives of Suboxone. My problem is that instead of getting me to a dose that made me comfortable on my first visit, this doc writes me a scrip for 120 8mg Suboxone. At the time I didn&#039;t know if that was good, bad, or what. Within the first few days of taking it, I realized that was an absurd dosage.(not to mention about $1000 w/ out insurance) . Back to present day, I had told my doc I wanted off this stuff, so he proceeded to write me a scrip for 15 8mg, which I tapered down on for at least 40 days. The sicker I got and the less sub I had left, I really began to worry and research. I was horrified at the stories I read. Hundreds of unsuccessful nightmare detoxs to every one success story(also nightmare though). The most interesting things I found were that there were 2 mg pills, and although I may have been warned this drug may be addictive, heck I may have even signed some fine print form that said you may very well have to take this for the rest of your life. 2 things I know for sure: The Doctor DID NOT adequately warn me it would be pure torture possibly for months to come off this med. The 2nd thing I know is that I had never been informed there was a 2 mg pill. Coming from someone who&#039;s been on it &amp; is going off it, something has to be done! NO ONE should be taking 30-40 mg of this stuff and even more, no one should be given this on a long term basis. This is a protocol blunder of epic proportions, not to mention the makings of a class action suit. By the way, I&#039;m not one of these assholes who blows smoke about suing people. My father was one of the best and most well-respected medical malpractice attorneys this country has ever seen. See for yourself, his name was Barney Smith Jr. At most, every single person who ever starts this drug should be given a max of 4-6 mg to start, then once the patient levels out(feels comfort), the slow taper should begin. I promise you the company that made and tested this drug did not have a test where a person took 8 or more mg a day for 2 yrs then observed their WDs and reactions! Instead they just used me and thousands  more as their gguinea pigs while they get God only knows how rich for scamming people at the weakest and most vulnerable. EVIL WRONG!!  I wage my life something will be done. We go took this medication to feel better and change our lives. not go broke, gain an addiction and get punished if you actually want to stop taking it. Email me if I&#039;m wrong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a recovering drug addict. I guess for this subject, my opiate addiction is the most pressing issue. I got addicted to lortabs . For the record , this did not start with a doctor writing me a scrip. I bought them from other people who had prescriptions. After I basically wasted my inheritance on these pills, I decided to go a methadone clinic. I was still an addict at this time, so it just seemed like a better idea to get my fix for 10 $ a day rather than buying lortab 10s @4-5$ each. A lot of days when my tolerance was high, I would buy and take 20 tabs a day. One day I just decided I wanted to be clean and have a life. Suboxone was recommended to me by the doc at the methadone clinic. I am not 100% sure exactly how long I have been taking Suboxone, but I know it has been at least 2 1/2 yrs. I did get clean from everything. I just thought it was perfect, and in a lot of ways it really changed my life. Now comes the problem&#8230; I am currently tapering myself off this stuff, and I knew it was gonna be tough! I once went from 100 mg of Methadone to not taking any for 11 days. Obviously it was awful, but I was broke and had no family that wanted anything to do with me. The point is, for the majority of the time that I was taking Suboxone, I was taking 1 8mg pill a day. I took 1 1/2 for a short period. Anyway, I tapered to 4 mg for at least a month. Then I went to 1/4 pills for a week and a half or so. This is when I started getting sick. It&#8217;s not quite the same as other opiate with drawal; more of a mental battle and of course stomach problems, no sleep, Absolutely NO appetite. During the last week of my tapering (got down to crumbs) I lost 12 lbs in1 week. 152 lbs to 140; and the real wd hadn&#8217;t even started. I know I probably signed a ton of papers saying a lot of things about the positives and negatives of Suboxone. My problem is that instead of getting me to a dose that made me comfortable on my first visit, this doc writes me a scrip for 120 8mg Suboxone. At the time I didn&#8217;t know if that was good, bad, or what. Within the first few days of taking it, I realized that was an absurd dosage.(not to mention about $1000 w/ out insurance) . Back to present day, I had told my doc I wanted off this stuff, so he proceeded to write me a scrip for 15 8mg, which I tapered down on for at least 40 days. The sicker I got and the less sub I had left, I really began to worry and research. I was horrified at the stories I read. Hundreds of unsuccessful nightmare detoxs to every one success story(also nightmare though). The most interesting things I found were that there were 2 mg pills, and although I may have been warned this drug may be addictive, heck I may have even signed some fine print form that said you may very well have to take this for the rest of your life. 2 things I know for sure: The Doctor DID NOT adequately warn me it would be pure torture possibly for months to come off this med. The 2nd thing I know is that I had never been informed there was a 2 mg pill. Coming from someone who&#8217;s been on it &amp; is going off it, something has to be done! NO ONE should be taking 30-40 mg of this stuff and even more, no one should be given this on a long term basis. This is a protocol blunder of epic proportions, not to mention the makings of a class action suit. By the way, I&#8217;m not one of these assholes who blows smoke about suing people. My father was one of the best and most well-respected medical malpractice attorneys this country has ever seen. See for yourself, his name was Barney Smith Jr. At most, every single person who ever starts this drug should be given a max of 4-6 mg to start, then once the patient levels out(feels comfort), the slow taper should begin. I promise you the company that made and tested this drug did not have a test where a person took 8 or more mg a day for 2 yrs then observed their WDs and reactions! Instead they just used me and thousands  more as their gguinea pigs while they get God only knows how rich for scamming people at the weakest and most vulnerable. EVIL WRONG!!  I wage my life something will be done. We go took this medication to feel better and change our lives. not go broke, gain an addiction and get punished if you actually want to stop taking it. Email me if I&#8217;m wrong</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://howto.dcrdetox.com/rapid-detox/comment-page-1#comment-80157</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 20:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is NOTHING wonderful about Suboxone.  Your statement is ridiculous and your obviously one of those people who are going to be on suboxone for the rest of your life.  Suboxone has done nothing but control me for the past 5 years.  I&#039;m more hooked on suboxone than I was oxycontin.  Because the &quot;opiets&quot; in suboxone bind to the receptoprs so much stronger than regular opiets is EXACTLY why it is so damn hard to get off of!!  Its not a solution!!!  Its NOT wonderful!! Unless you are not in it to quit but rather be able to be prescribed a drug thats extremely if not more narcotic than all pain meds.  Its a way for people to continue their hi&#039;s in a more orderly fashion.  I been on it 5 years so I know!  I started suboxone treatment at 32mgs and now 5 years later I am at 4mgs and close to stopping. To this day I still get hi from it.. Suboxone is NOT a cure!!  I would do anything to be able to afford this rapid detox treatment!!  Anything!!!  Opiets and suboxone has ruined my life!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is NOTHING wonderful about Suboxone.  Your statement is ridiculous and your obviously one of those people who are going to be on suboxone for the rest of your life.  Suboxone has done nothing but control me for the past 5 years.  I&#8217;m more hooked on suboxone than I was oxycontin.  Because the &#8220;opiets&#8221; in suboxone bind to the receptoprs so much stronger than regular opiets is EXACTLY why it is so damn hard to get off of!!  Its not a solution!!!  Its NOT wonderful!! Unless you are not in it to quit but rather be able to be prescribed a drug thats extremely if not more narcotic than all pain meds.  Its a way for people to continue their hi&#8217;s in a more orderly fashion.  I been on it 5 years so I know!  I started suboxone treatment at 32mgs and now 5 years later I am at 4mgs and close to stopping. To this day I still get hi from it.. Suboxone is NOT a cure!!  I would do anything to be able to afford this rapid detox treatment!!  Anything!!!  Opiets and suboxone has ruined my life!!</p>
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		<title>By: highgasman</title>
		<link>http://howto.dcrdetox.com/rapid-detox/comment-page-1#comment-20072</link>
		<dc:creator>highgasman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you reply is quite confusing; suboxone is NOT used in rapid detox, so whats your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you reply is quite confusing; suboxone is NOT used in rapid detox, so whats your point?</p>
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		<title>By: shellice</title>
		<link>http://howto.dcrdetox.com/rapid-detox/comment-page-1#comment-5198</link>
		<dc:creator>shellice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding me??? My Psychiatrist took me from 15 milligrams of Methadone (I started at 40 and went up to 80 at a clinic), by putting me on high doses of Oxycontin to cut through the Methadone withdrawal. I was told to chew the oxi&#039;s every 4 hours, or whenever I felt symptoms of withdrawal. After 10 days he put me on his &quot;MAGIC&quot; pill Suboxone. 3 and 1/2 years later, I am stuck at 8 milligrams of Suboxone and am unable to taper without HORRIBLE withdrawal. Now I am going to Rapid Detox. An extreme that is not necessary with Methadone if weened off of slowly. You can&#039;t ween off of Suboxone. It is a joke and a cash cow. You should be ashamed of yourself calling it a GREAT ALTERNATIVE!!
Make all of the money you can from it now. there is a huge Class Action Lawsuit against Suboxone. Never heard of Methadone having that. And it has been around for decades. Suboxone was introduced to the United States in 2002. Straight from India. And the FDA approved it without many trials. If anyone reading this that is thinking about the switch from Methadone to Suboxone, DON&#039;T DO IT!!
PLEASE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me??? My Psychiatrist took me from 15 milligrams of Methadone (I started at 40 and went up to 80 at a clinic), by putting me on high doses of Oxycontin to cut through the Methadone withdrawal. I was told to chew the oxi&#8217;s every 4 hours, or whenever I felt symptoms of withdrawal. After 10 days he put me on his &#8220;MAGIC&#8221; pill Suboxone. 3 and 1/2 years later, I am stuck at 8 milligrams of Suboxone and am unable to taper without HORRIBLE withdrawal. Now I am going to Rapid Detox. An extreme that is not necessary with Methadone if weened off of slowly. You can&#8217;t ween off of Suboxone. It is a joke and a cash cow. You should be ashamed of yourself calling it a GREAT ALTERNATIVE!!<br />
Make all of the money you can from it now. there is a huge Class Action Lawsuit against Suboxone. Never heard of Methadone having that. And it has been around for decades. Suboxone was introduced to the United States in 2002. Straight from India. And the FDA approved it without many trials. If anyone reading this that is thinking about the switch from Methadone to Suboxone, DON&#8217;T DO IT!!<br />
PLEASE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Feel-Live</title>
		<link>http://howto.dcrdetox.com/rapid-detox/comment-page-1#comment-5142</link>
		<dc:creator>Feel-Live</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great alternative to methadone is Suboxone. It can be prescribed by many doctors [check www.suboxone.com] or administered through a detox/rehab program. It can be used short or long term and does not affect the opioid receptors in the way that methadone or other opiates do. It is a &quot;partial opioid antagonist&quot; meaning, more or less, that it does not cause respiratory depression as the others do [no overdose]. Also, the opiate binds to your receptors much stronger than other opiates meaning that it&#039;s harder for the others to latch on. If you are taking it, you are not able to get high. It&#039;s a semi new and wonderful way to treat opiate addiction and is now widely available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great alternative to methadone is Suboxone. It can be prescribed by many doctors [check <a href="http://www.suboxone.com" >http://www.suboxone.com</a> or administered through a detox/rehab program. It can be used short or long term and does not affect the opioid receptors in the way that methadone or other opiates do. It is a "partial opioid antagonist" meaning, more or less, that it does not cause respiratory depression as the others do [no overdose]. Also, the opiate binds to your receptors much stronger than other opiates meaning that it&#8217;s harder for the others to latch on. If you are taking it, you are not able to get high. It&#8217;s a semi new and wonderful way to treat opiate addiction and is now widely available.</p>
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